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« on: April 20, 2010, 04:32:08 pm »

im looking at possible getting into airsoft. im looking at getting a bolt action rifle so i dont need gas or battery, im looking to go simple and light.

after searching around I'm finding for 100 dollars more than alot of other bolt rifles i could get this.

Tokyo Marui L96 AWS Black Stock [Bolt-action airsoft rifle]

http://www.specialforcesweapons.com/shop/product_details.php?p=52

I'm looking for info / knowledge involving bolt rifles. i cant seem to find any reviews. also is the distance with a bolt rifle alot greater than the basic rifles to allow me to play a true sniper position outside the range of other weapons.

also I'm wanting to know if one shot from a bolt  weapon, unless placed on a area not covered by a vest or other thick material will keep some one from knowing that i have shot them. or is it kind of a wast of time to think of a bolt when it takes a swarm of shots down range  for some one to know there hit?????????????????

also I'm looking for other ideas on bolts that perform well for a good price.
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« Reply #1 on: April 20, 2010, 04:55:31 pm »

I have seen a few type 96's out on our field and they seem to work fairly well. The range difference is not that much better than a properly upgraded AEG but you cant beat the stealth that needing only one round can bring. You can fairly easily hear a single hit on your gear and those count as kills in HAL. Even glancing shots across your back are considered kills. I would say that there are at least 10 players with bolt rifles ranging from $100 to $1200 so we should be able to help you along when it comes to information. Just try to be specific with your questions. If you are keeping the fps low (less than 425fps) then you are better off with a assault rifle/carbine. If you are looking to use a higher power spring (430-550fps) you will want to be sure to have a sidearm or SMG backup as you will not be able to engage players at less than 50ft.



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« Reply #2 on: April 20, 2010, 05:10:17 pm »

I have seen a few type 96's out on our field and they seem to work fairly well. The range difference is not that much better than a properly upgraded AEG but you cant beat the stealth that needing only one round can bring. You can fairly easily hear a single hit on your gear and those count as kills in HAL. Even glancing shots across your back are considered kills. I would say that there are at least 10 players with bolt rifles ranging from $100 to $1200 so we should be able to help you along when it comes to information. Just try to be specific with your questions. If you are keeping the fps low (less than 425fps) then you are better off with a assault rifle/carbine. If you are looking to use a higher power spring (430-550fps) you will want to be sure to have a sidearm or SMG backup as you will not be able to engage players at less than 50ft.

thanks for the info. i had just found out that the rifle in my first post only shoots 310fps. and for 100 dollars less i found one that shoots 500fps and has a good review.  http://blujay.com/?page=ad&adid=3248444&cat=14260100

you already answer all my questions. i appreciate that. ill keep looking and keep in mind that i need a pistol at close range if shooting over 430fps.



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« Reply #3 on: April 20, 2010, 05:16:50 pm »

Always happy to help. Feel free to ask any questions you may have. Many of our members are very knowledgeable in the ups and downs of airsoft.



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« Reply #4 on: April 20, 2010, 05:26:07 pm »

About 20 minutes worth of review, but these guys seem to do a pretty good job with their reviews.

Airsoft Reports Quality Review- WELL L96 Sniper Rifle


WELL L96 Firing Report
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« Reply #5 on: April 20, 2010, 07:20:27 pm »

so i don't want to bring you down but i would not recommend that your first gun be a sniper rifle let alone be your only gun, snipers are fun for sneaking around and picking off people quietly, but soon as there is a fight to be had you'll be sorely out classed and need a really good side arm or small aeg to back your self up when  Hit the Fan Hit the Fan

there is a bit of a learning curve for beginners  in airsoft and there is an even stepper learning curve for airsoft snipers, i never got above the sniper learning curve and sold my sniper because of it, when i did use my sniper rifle i got tons of kills...with my side arm and only two with my rifle

that being said, that is not true for every one, Stalker who i sold my sniper to has been having a blast with the thing, even though he is relatively new to the game, but i honestly do not feel that most people can jump into the sniper role so easily

i don't know you so i can not even pretend to know what will work for you, you could be a sniper genius, but i do want to put out a word of caution because i for one didn't have fun with a sniper rifle and i so not know if even those with snipers would suggest that you only own a sniper
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« Reply #6 on: April 20, 2010, 08:43:51 pm »

I'll echo Rootbeer's cautionary tale though I don't think that you necessarily need an AEG to be competitive. A long gun, sure, but Full Auto isn't a must and you might have just as good a time from a pump shotgun ( http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?cPath=139_181&products_id=3788 ). The learning curve for airsoft snipers is steep, to be sure, though as Root pointed out, if you have the personality for it, the avenue can be quite rewarding. Depending on your background a bolt gun could be a good option for you.

If cost is a prohibiting factor, there are several low-cost AEGs in that price range from JG and Echo1 which many players have found to be excellent starting guns if cost is what is keeping you from getting into airsoft.

What I can say is that you are more than welcome to come out and experience Airsoft any Saturday we're holding an event. Get a chance to handle some gear and maybe even play a game or two so long as you have eye protection and appropriate clothing/footwear.

For what it's worth, I started playing this game with just a GBB Pistol before I realized the limitations of that weapon system and moved on to a more effective setup for myself. Let's face it, pistols have a rather significant limitation when considering effective range no matter how good they are.  

Anyway, so what I'm trying to get at: If a bolt gun is what you want to start with, you should. We never know what style of play will mesh with our personality until we try it for a little while and adapt as you come to know yourself as an airsoft player. Several people will tell you that their current rigs aren't anything like what they thought they'd be playing with when they got into this sport/hobby and many of us are still learning what it is we like to play with.
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« Reply #7 on: April 20, 2010, 09:04:45 pm »

i don't know if you saw but i also rent aeg's and gear so that people can get a chance to taste air soft with out committing  to buy anything i ask 10 dollars and have everything you need other then bb's ( just putting it out there if your interested) but it is a good idea in my opinion to try before you buy thats why i started renting guns

i would rent you a sniper but like i said i sold it....
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« Reply #8 on: April 21, 2010, 03:37:00 am »

i don't know if you saw but i also rent aeg's and gear so that people can get a chance to taste air soft with out committing  to buy anything i ask 10 dollars and have everything you need other then bb's ( just putting it out there if your interested) but it is a good idea in my opinion to try before you buy thats why i started renting guns

i would rent you a sniper but like i said i sold it....

i might take you up on that at some point. right now i have about a month of stuff going on. but after that unless i find a great used deal in my travels, i would be interested in renting. Thanks for the offer.
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« Reply #9 on: April 21, 2010, 09:37:26 am »

I would tell you that what type of rifle you start with should depend entirely on your current idea of what style of fighter/player you think youself to be. The front line direct action fast paced type, or the sneakier stealthier every shot counts type.
HAL FPS limits are much higher for a bolt sniper rifle at 550fps, 425fps for AEG's. That being said your accuracy and range obviously will be greater than an AEG. You will also be capable of shooting heavier munitions, which may not carry as far down range but will have a straighter trajectory and a greater impact. Both bolt action riles and AEG's have there pros and cons it simply depends on you. And that tends to evolve as you play and gain experience.

This video has a sniper working with some rifleman its not exactly our style of gameplay
here but it should give a basic idea of the single bolt firing againt full auto AEG's in battle.
http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=scoutthedoggie#p/u/12/q6YbOdvC5qE

I strongly suggest coming out to one of our events and getting a first hand idea on airsoft guns. I'm sure no one would mind giving you the rundown on their rifle.  2 Thumbs Up

If you should choose to come and check us out heres where to find our dates times and locations. DO NOT I repeat DO NOT hesitate to ask away with any questions you have.
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« Reply #10 on: April 22, 2010, 06:42:20 pm »

I as well will echo rootbeers and bishops comments, but also agree with TK in that it depends on your desire.. if you definitely want to do the sniper,  another way to look at it is get an M14 or M25 platform (.208 is the official but there are Designated marksman versions as well based on the m16 platform.. the advantage with such a system is one that the military is quick to adapt because it blends the sniper into the battlefield scenery thus making him less of a targe also if you base your sniper rifle off of say a DMR version of the M16 (of which JG does have one for under 200) you can pair it up with a smaller CQB version of the M16/M4 and have total magazine cabaibility..  and yes in real life snipers are doing exactly that... carrying and m4 and thier primary sniper platform... t if you are interested in some of the skillsets of the sniper, definitely contact me..  while i was not one, that was one thing i wanted to be in the Marines which was Scout/Sniper and i have some material on tactics which are very easy to conver ot airsoft.

TK the tactics there are mimicking actual military tactics now.. both the army and marines now are sending out snipers in 4-6 man teams... better chance of sniper survival plus capibilty to take out multiple targets at once.
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